[Samsonite]

excellent review, Paul! Thanks!

after much procrastination and faffing about, i'm holding out for this phone. My Magician is now held together with sellotape, with no power button, dings all over it and a battery that wont last a day!

i only hope that the networks (please T-Mobile, please!) pick this up as soon as they can. How long from 'release' would you think we will be able to get a T or O device? not that i want the network ROM but otherwise its a SIM free with a contract from the various re-sellers like what Expansys do.

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[chucky.egg]

Quite impressed with the speed of the screen rotation. My Wizard is much much slower.

I've put the Wizard back in the drawer and been using the XDA IQ (SP5) for a while, but a combination of the two would be near perfect.

Yeah, this is the one for me.

[Monolithix]

Looks just like what the Smartphone scene needs (bar a decent camera, sort it out HTC!). Think i'll still wait out for the Wings though

[Marcel A]

Does Tomtom 6 works on this device Paul ?

[PaulOBrien]

Not great, as TT6 really is for PPC.

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[Chiz]

Nice one.

These vids are great.

Thanks

[moonshot]

Paul (MVP), on Mar 30 2007, 11:11, said:

I'll ignore those who claim 140g is too heavy (it's not in my experience)

Well sorry but its not a very good review then. All issues should be addressed.

The reason why many of us bought the c500, c550 and the c600 is because they were light and we did not need a qwerty keypad.

I think a line has to be drawn in the sand as to what is a smartphone and what is not. The VOX is not a smartphone. Maybe a smart pocket PC.

It will sell because of the novelty value, but two months down the line those who have one will realise that if they are willing to carry 140 grams in their pocket they could have bought a better gadget to play with. If all they wanted was a replacement for their light smartphone, they will wish they had not bothered.

[chucky.egg]

The review is fine. It mentions the weight (Not that you can do anything about that anyway) and says that the reviewer doesn't think it's an issue.

If you disagree then perhaps this isn't the phone for you, but to say the reviewer is wrong about the issue is highly subjective and clearly not based on experience of this device.

[Exodia]

moonshot, on Mar 31 2007, 19:50, said:

I think a line has to be drawn in the sand as to what is a smartphone and what is not. The VOX is not a smartphone. Maybe a smart pocket PC.

Looks like a smartphone to me, its compact and running the smartphone version of the OS. Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
Then again, the 300 pound girl next door looks like a woman, talks like a woman and even smells like a woman, but some people still insist that shes a cow.

[Marcel A]

What will be the release date ?

[PaulOBrien]

moonshot, on Mar 31 2007, 23:50, said:

Well sorry but its not a very good review then. All issues should be addressed.

The reason why many of us bought the c500, c550 and the c600 is because they were light and we did not need a qwerty keypad.

I think a line has to be drawn in the sand as to what is a smartphone and what is not. The VOX is not a smartphone. Maybe a smart pocket PC.

It will sell because of the novelty value, but two months down the line those who have one will realise that if they are willing to carry 140 grams in their pocket they could have bought a better gadget to play with. If all they wanted was a replacement for their light smartphone, they will wish they had not bothered.

It's not a very good review because I disagree with you? Interesting perspective

No matter how many times you try to convince everyone the Vox isn't a Smartphone, it is. And to make that judgement without seeing or using one is distinctly questionable.

I'm a bit intrigued by the 'better gadget to play with' for 140g, you're clearly missing the point. A real life user example is my dad, who currently has a C600. He wants a candybar, doesn't want a touchscreen, wants a numeric keypad, wants the Smartphone OS etc., and he's completely smitten by the Vox. It's the SMARTPHONE he wants, and having seen / held the '140g device', he also is sure the weight is not an issue. He doesn't want a PPC, he wants a Smartphone, and he wants this one. He's not the only one

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[JamminJP]

looks like a great phone, now do I sell my S620

if I get this all I am getting is a "normal" phone kepad as the basic phone is the same as the S620

now should I wait or get it!

[PaulOBrien]

And Windows Mobile 6

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[JamminJP]

Paul (MVP), on Apr 1 2007, 12:05, said:

And Windows Mobile 6

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OH yea how could I forget that! doh!

[Microsoft]

could you host fulll resolution of those pictures in the review?

[shutdown]

well my voda contract is just about up and after seeing this on expansys for £30pm with voda i'm having to say...i'm bloody tempted!

I would like to get a bit of feedback about how good/bad tomtom is on it though.

before i upgraded the ROM on my old C500 i used to have a version of TT on it and it ran quite nice.

[Terrapin]

Prompted by the latest news article on coolsmartphone.com I've just been to the orange shop in Chester, if you ask they have the E650 dummy in the back and it looks good! A fair bit smaller than my t-mobile vario, exactly what I've been after. Can't wait for the release, hope the battery life is decent.

[moonshot]

chucky.egg, on Apr 1 2007, 07:41, said:

The review is fine. It mentions the weight (Not that you can do anything about that anyway) and says that the reviewer doesn't think it's an issue.

If you disagree then perhaps this isn't the phone for you, but to say the reviewer is wrong about the issue is highly subjective and clearly not based on experience of this device.

I did not say the reviewer is wrong about the issue, I said the review was not very good. If it was Paul's personal thoughts about the Vox then I will retract what I said. But it was called a review and to say I'll ignore those who claim 140g is too heavy (it's not in my experience), is excluding, I would think, many of us who do want a light smartphone.

You could use this sentiment for any feature of a mobile being reviewed. For example............I'll ignore those who claim that a 2 mp camera is poor by today’s standards because I don't use a camera.

[PaulOBrien]

Any review is a reviewers personal perspective on a device is it not? I told you the device is 140g and that I didn't think it was too heavy (making quite clear that was my opinion), what else would you expect from a review?

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[tautegu]

what are the benefits of having 3G? The Htc Wings has 3G but will i be able to use my orange sim on this. (this might be a very stupid question).
The Vox is very impressive and the 140g wouldn't really bother me for a device that is only slightly larger than the c500. i might wait for the Wings though

on pdadb.net the spec says that the d pad is 5 way. the review indicates that the dpad can go diagonally so wouldnt this make the dpad 9 way?

This post has been edited by tautegu: 01 April 2007 - 05:28 PM

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