[RobertCeuppens]

Confucious, on Nov 29 2008, 00:28, said:

How do you know what their minimum call charge is?

Just from the bill for the calls outside of the allowance. One call on there to a mobile for 4 secs is 0.255p.
Rob.

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[PaulOBrien]

re: building penetration, T-Mo and O are both 1800MHz, Voda and O2 are 900MHz, so T-Mo and O should have the same in building penetration...?

P

[PaulOBrien]

With O2, if you don't want lots of texts, lose the texts bolton and have unlimited data instead?

P

[mo_sjo]

Paul (MVP), on Nov 29 2008, 09:38, said:

re: building penetration, T-Mo and O are both 1800MHz, Voda and O2 are 900MHz, so T-Mo and O should have the same in building penetration...?

That'd be true if they were sharing the same cell tower and had identical power.

[mo_sjo]

Paul (MVP), on Nov 29 2008, 09:39, said:

With O2, if you don't want lots of texts, lose the texts bolton and have unlimited data instead?

You can't lose the 1000 texts - that's the standard package, bolt-ons are extra (on personal tarriffs). Then i'd be stuck as I need both unlimited landline and good data volumes, but only a choice of one bolt-on

[Confucious]

That surprises me as I thought O had abandoned personal users in favour of business users who usually say that O's CS is still very good and O's coverage is generally reckoned to be better than T's (especially in the west country) although T is catching up.

[Monolithix]

Paul is correct over the frequencies (assuming equal basestation placement and transmitting power), there is also further granularisation when you take 3G into account too. Personally, coming from 3 I've found T-Mobiles coverage horribly patchy, and also suffer from 3-4 bars HSDPA to 1 bar/no signal GSM only at the windows once inside (seriously I swear my flat has lead lined walls, even going into the next room to the router, sitting on the other side of the wall, is enough to drain 1/2-1/3 of the signal power)!

I've tried SIMs from all the top 4 carriers inside and confirmed the penetration levels too. O and TMob are next to useless, O2 give me a few bars consistently (with EDGE!), ditto Voda. I'll be going to O2 later in the month. T-Mobile not providing HSDPA on WnW standard is inexcusable imho...

[pd.ryder]

Mono - I'm on W&W standard and definately get HSDPA speeds. Mind you, I get IM connection and laptop bluetooth modem too so I'm not complaining.

Another reason I'm in no rush to 'renew' my contract

[Confucious]

It depends when you got it, but My <£21/month for Flext35 and W'n'W Plus suits me quite nicely. Just need to get the correct SSIM unlock card
for my iPhone to get it working again in that....

[Monolithix]

pd.ryder, on Dec 1 2008, 18:59, said:

Mono - I'm on W&W standard and definately get HSDPA speeds. Mind you, I get IM connection and laptop bluetooth modem too so I'm not complaining.

Another reason I'm in no rush to 'renew' my contract

It's only early WnW standard customers who have HSDPA available. My contract started nearly a year ago and I definitely did not have that lovely little H on the top of my screen (as per the Ts n Cs), upgraded to WnW Pro and that sorted it!

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